For Tesla's futuristic new Cybertruck, a fourth recall
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Tesla is recalling its futuristic new Cybertruck pickup for the fourth time in the U.S. to fix problems with trim pieces that can come loose, and failing front windshield wipers.

The company says in the documents that the front windshield wiper motor controller can stop working because it’s getting too much electrical current. A wiper that fails can cut visibility, increasing the risk of a crash. The Austin, Texas, company says it knows of no crashes or injuries caused by the problem.

In the other recall, a trim piece along the truck bed can come loose and fly off, creating a hazard for other motorists.

Tesla says in documents that the trim piece is installed with adhesive, and that may not have been done properly at the factory.

      • aesthelete@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        2 days ago

        Not like these people had any warning that they might be buying a shitty product designed and sold by a pathological liar /s:

        And the glass is virtually indestructible instantly smashes

    • FloatingAlong@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 days ago

      I’m sure it’s fine. It’s not like there’s an idiot who makes stupid, whimsical decisions in charge.

  • puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    752·
    3 days ago

    Say what you want about Musk, but bankrupting TWO multibillion dollar companies at the same time is impressive.

  • JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.caEnglish
    1093·
    3 days ago

    Never buy the first model year of any vehicle. And that includes new generations with the same model name. They always have the most problems the first year, so you’re just paying to be a beta tester.

    • vxx@lemmy.worldEnglish
      461·
      3 days ago

      You would assume we have wipers down after decades without failure.

      Wipers often are the only moving part still working after a car totalled.

    • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      Never buy the brand new model of anything. Computer, car, dishwasher, blender; they all have teething problems that are solved in later versions. Hell, in enterprise IT it’s common to be several major versions back and to pay for security patches rather than keep up with the latest and greatest.

    • Grippler@feddit.dkEnglish
      19·
      3 days ago

      Never by the first model og anything really, everything is rushed to market and nothing is done properly the first time.

  • zaph@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    67·
    3 days ago

    front windshield wipers that can fail

    Seems irrelevant if the truck can’t even get wet

    • elvith@feddit.orgEnglish
      46·
      3 days ago

      The problem isn’t that it can’t get wet. The problem is that it mustn’t get wet.

      • zaph@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        20·
        3 days ago

        Very true. Now I’m angry at myself for missing an opportunity to use one of the worst contractions in the English language.

    • ChicoSuave@lemmy.worldEnglish
      321·
      3 days ago

      The truck was first shown in 2016, nearly 8 years ago, and only came out last year so there was about half a decade of hype building around this thing that was busy sucking in all the gullible rich people.

      • krashmo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        3 days ago

        Honest question, what’s there to be hyped about? I haven’t ever looked into its feature set because it looks like ass. Do people just like the Tesla name or what?

        • niucllos@lemm.eeEnglish
          92·
          3 days ago

          For many of those years it was the only electric pickup truck being advertised. And also, yes people do like the Tesla name. Musk and growing competition has done a ton to tank the reputation lately, but until just a couple years ago Tesla was far and away the best and most advanced electric car, and depending on your criteria the most advanced/best car period. Perception shifts slowly outside of well-informed groups, and the Musk hate is really only affecting well-informed left wing groups right now, so a lot of libertarian Musk fanboys are still fully on the Tesla train

            • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
              3·
              3 days ago

              Rivian was also first to market and showed their concept a year and a half before the cyber truck reveal (where the first showed it and smashed its windows).

        • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          3 days ago

          It was the first EV pickup, at the time of announcement, and the battery tech sounded excellent, as did the list of features. Most importantly the announced price would have made it one of the lowest priced EVs. How could you not get hyped?

          But when it dragged out so long and they were going to deliver on features offer price, maybe they should have cut their losses.

          At the time, I was saying Cybertruck was a huge success because it pushed Ford to build the F150 Lightning.

        • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.worldEnglish
          22·
          3 days ago

          Now that it’s available for sale, and ignoring the looks/stainless steel aspects, I think the biggest thing to be excited about is the steer by wire.

          Reviews seem to be saying it drives exceptionally well because of it, and that’d really differentiate it from the other options.

          Edit: the steer by wire with the 4 wheel steering.

          • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
            7·
            3 days ago

            Let me get this straight: you not only actually want a vehicle that decides where to go based on software instead of with a mechanical linkage you can reliably control, but you also want Tesla, of all companies, to provide it?!

            • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.worldEnglish
              42·
              3 days ago

              There’s a lot of Tesla hate on build quaility on Lemmy/Reddit, but they actually have some of the most reliable power trains and exceptional software. There was some problems back in the very early days of the Model S with the 85kw/h packs, but they’ve moved beyond that now.

              Given this is part of the power train, and software, it’s right in line with their expertise.

              • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
                3·
                3 days ago

                I wouldn’t trust any software from any manufacturer to steer for me, at least not in such a way that I can’t easily disable and use a mechanical manual backup.

                Also, steering isn’t “power train.” If you’re gonna lump it in with something, it fits closer to the [alleged] self-driving system.

                • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  3 days ago

                  So I looked it up, and you’re right, steering isn’t part of the power train. Looks like its it’s own thing.

                  I don’t think it’s right to lump it in with the L2 system though as it’s taking your input and translating it into the appropriate movement. The L2 driving system decides to go left or right and will send the same signal you would by steering left or right. I guess it’s just it’s own thing just like power steering is it’s own thing.

                  Obviously this is first gen tech in cars, but it’s been around for quite awhile in aviation with no backup mechanical link, we haven’t all died yet.

                  Tesla’s system is triple redundant, but that doesn’t guarantee something won’t go wrong, only time will tell on that one. Maybe we learn triple isn’t enough and the NHSTA mandates quad?

                  I do have a feeling though, that within 20 years or so, it’s almost all going to be steer by wire. It’s safer in the event of a crash as you don’t have the steering shaft in front of you. It also saves space from not needing all the mechanical linkage. I imagine insurance would have higher rates on cars that don’t have steer by wire as well due to increased risk in accidents.

                  Edit: I would add though that motors are part of their specialty, and the steer by wire system is using 2 of them, so they do get some of their existing expertise on that.

                  Edit: I guess the triple redundancy is on the steering input. Obviously with only the 2 motors, thats only double redundant.

          • Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.eeEnglish
            33·
            3 days ago

            Reviews seem to be saying it drives exceptionally well

            I’m guessing here, but did 100% of these reviews come from a country with some of the worst fucking drivers on the entire planet?

      • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        3·
        3 days ago

        It was teased and unnamed in 2016c but we didn’t see the concept truck until November 2019.

        The steering system and power delivery is interesting but not not enough to overcome the dangerously sharp, blind spot riddled, and impractical body design.

        The couldn’t even be bothered to put a digital rear view mirror in the place other companies and third parties have been doing it for a decade.

      • Grippler@feddit.dkEnglish
        32·
        3 days ago

        the idea of tesla making a pickup is pretty old, but it was not announced as a concept vehicle with an image and name until the end of 2019

    • The Pantser@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      3 days ago

      Who said they sold them? There was a recent story where there was a parking lot full of them that was spray painted “fuck Elon” so we can assume there are other lots of them rusting away.

      • st3ph3n@midwest.socialEnglish
        81·
        3 days ago

        I think the ones in that lot were sitting there waiting for recall work to be done before they could be delivered to suckers customers.

    • Thetimefarm@lemm.eeEnglish
      232·
      3 days ago

      I mean most of the issues have been from the assembly process and not the fundamental design. However I would argue designing something you can’t reliably assemble is just as bad. Adhesive needs to be done right on every unit and it’s impossible to visually inspect it in this application. Clips are a pain in the ass but I’ll take them over glued on trim any day of the week.

      • piecat@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10·
        3 days ago

        Coming from the man who knows more about manufacturing than anyone on the planet

    • barsquid@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      What, take ideas from decades of vehicle manufacturing like a filthy pleb? Listening to lower IQ car engineers with decades of experience is just going to slow a genius like Elon down.

    • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
      41·
      3 days ago

      It’s all part of the “move fast and break things” development process.

  • espentan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    253·
    3 days ago

    11.000 people bought one?! I figured just a few museums would’ve picked one, to display in their abstract art sections, or the “even when we knew how not to we still built shit” section.

    • LordGimp@lemm.eeEnglish
      71·
      3 days ago

      No, 11,000 were effected by the recall. There’s way more morons with money in this country. I’m in CA and I saw 3 of them on my 10 minute drive to my favorite pizza joint.

  • Djtecha@lemm.eeEnglish
    172·
    3 days ago

    Great, now I have to worry about the morons buying this garbage flinging it at me.

  • Wrench@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    3 days ago

    Most expensive early access beta with pre-order ever. Tesla is the EA of cars.