but sometimes you have kids online who don’t obviously seem like kids because you can’t see them

Point taken… Altho personally I don’t care about how old someone is. When I game online or just squat on Lemmy/Reddit/forum, I’m fine taking to people whether they’re 13 or 70. If anything, younger people tend to be more open minded, which possibly comes with having access to all the information.

But yea I guess some topics probably hit different when you grow up in a certain style of environment. Still, when I babysit kids, I find they are curious about everything and are willing to change their mind if they get explained something realistically. And I don’t see younger people ask loaded questions as often as older folks do.

I’d imagine if you’re not in tech circles you also don’t find out much about privacy risks.

I don’t begrudge people for not knowing things. What I find interesting is how they react when they learn about something, or their initial train of thought. You probably know the experiment of asking randos “should dihydrohen monoxide be banned?”

I have this hobby almost, I like finding new things, weird and divisive stuff. Oddball topics, weird fetishes, strange habits, crazy hobbies, wild art, whatever. If there’s a community with “weird” in the title, I’ll probably subscribe to it.

And it also gives me some insight into how outsiders react when they stumble upon that stuff. Most people, when confronted with something out of their ordinary, tend to go “damn good thing I’m normal, everyone is weird” or worse. So I guess it is human nature, but you can also imagine how tiring it can get.

I understand and even appreciate that people have different priorities, worries and preferences. Which is why I dislike the attitude some take, “if you don’t care about X, you’re part of the problem”. It may even be true in lots of cases, but we can’t all care about the same things, less we all worry about everything all the time, and that’s not good or realistic.

Funny thing though. I’ve seen people have civil debates about the most sensitive, divisive topics, as long as the initial question or statement comes from a place of genuine curiosity.

But whenever I see people ask the “why is privacy important?” question, it’s never just “am I missing something?” but more of a “gimme all the ads, collect everything about me, I don’t care”, sometimes with the “you conspiracy theorists weirdos, nobody cares about you and you’re probably pedos anyway” sprinkled in.

So it’s a bit tiring to see this over and over, hence my snark at the beginning. And I don’t know where the attitude is coming from. Maybe it’s just a relatively new issue and people aren’t used to constantly being exposed to the debate, like with some other topics?

But in that case I gather that it should be the opposite problem - we used to have much more privacy than we have now, that just has to be obvious (hence the questions in the first place), so the proper question to ask would be “wait, why is everyone so interested in everything I do all of a sudden? Why is every corporation suddenly collecting all my data and giving me free stuff in return while raking in billions of profits? Hm, sus”

Eh maybe I’m missing something.

My point is that if it’s something that clearly lots of people care about, it’s probably a good idea to think a little.

The “why anyone would” part is in the “why people make a fuss”. I don’t wish to be a teacher here picking apart every word, don’t get me wrong, but people get upset if you invalidate what they care about. It’s like telling someone who’s angry to calm down.

Fortunately people here have more patience heh.

Well imagine coming to a vegetarian forum and asking: “Why does everyone make a fuss about killing animals? I eat meat three times every day, go on hunts every month, sometimes just for fun, I don’t even eat those animals. Also I don’t care about cages and all that, animals don’t have souls anyway.”

It may also be a genuine question, but sometimes it’s good to spend 10 seconds before asking, either by just thinking or maybe do a very brief web search.

In general, questions of the “I don’t care about X so I don’t see why anyone else could” kind tend to be like that. You can ask, but you can also expect people won’t want to talk to you.

If you’d phrase this in a less twatty way, you could almost ask this in a “no stupid questions” community.

That’s how I learned to tie my shoelaces as a kid. I was “taught” by a cousin iirc, who was barely older than me and couldn’t demonstrate it properly. I figured it out on my own by visualising it. It’s the bunny ears method that I use to this day.

I use Session Messenger, on the Oxen network. Love it on principle even tho the implementation is a bit lacking in places.

And there’s Tor… Which is what it is.

SF: Europa Report

I find 95% of foss software to be better than the commercial alternatives, and I’m not joking. As for bugs, foss devs are usually faster to respond to bug reports and user requests too, unless it’s some mismanaged behemoth like Mozilla.

Thing is, commercial software can use the money for advertising and marketing. Foss, especially of the free to use kind, usually only spread by word of mouth, and even that only within the foss communities at first.

Let’s not get into examples, because I’m sure we can always find examples for every case and it often comes to specific preferences. My general point is, that people who think free has to be crap, and commercial has to be good, are categorically wrong.

It’s in fact backwards: if you do something only for money, you’re incentivized to do the least amount of work either for maximum effectiveness or to give yourself time to do stuff you actually want to do.

It seems like most FOSS I’ve seen is a free, buggy, alternative to mainstream software, which resolves a problem the user had.

I don’t know what kind of sw you use, but usually I find Foss software to be sleek, functional, fast with good support and updates, while commercial software is ridden with ads, trackers, bloat and bugs. Exceptions on both sides but the notion that free software is generally worse is categorically incorrect.

Everyone can contribute, but how do they make a living?

So first not everyone can contribute. Usually people who also use the software and have personal (or monetary) interest in it, contribute.

And why does everything has to be about monetisation? Yes, both people and gigantic corporations make money off foss in various ways, I’m sure others have explained that already. But people also do things for other reasons than just money.

But I’m just baffled how people so often declare that foss can’t work or that it’s qualitatively worse, even though the entire planet has been dependent on foss for decades.

No, just because someone sells something directly, doesn’t mean it’s inherently better.

Check out Like Stories of Old and Joseph Anderson, although the latter haven’t posted anything in a long time…

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There are a lot of phones that have some of the features - Sony has punchless displays, some cheap phones have headphone jacks, all the Motorolas have two SIMs, some phones have SD cards in shared slots, Pixels and some others have unlockable bootloaders, it’s just basically impossible to get one with all of this…

My bad here, I didn’t mean AAC, but ALAC (lossless) and other Apple’s own mp4 variants. Indeed not sure how’s the support in core Android, although I’d guess ALAC should be since it’s part of mp4 specification.

I haven’t goofed around with it in a while, but some ~10 years ago when I was doing tech reviews I was looking into ALAC quite a bit and was surprised how nice it is, and apparently easy enough to implement that even lots of hardware devices supported it without even advertising it. Also 3rd party audiobook players can often deal with Apple’s audiobook DRM.

Basically, Apple did surprisingly well with audio formats while also supporting some open formats (at least in hardware), so maybe that’s also a reason why I’m not so adamant about formats being 100% free from the start, as long as they get the codec ball rolling.

But again it’s been 10 years since I was looking into this closely so I’m very fuzzy on the details.

Screen with no holes, physical dual SIM cards and mSD card, headphone jack, somewhat trustworthy manufacturer with no ads and bloat, easily unlockable bootloader. There should still be one German-made phone that still has all that and some more, if it still exists, although if I ever get to getting a new phone we’ll probably all be using brain implants so it may all be moot by that point. Don’t worry about it, I’m not looking for recommendations or anything, I know everyone thinks my demands are crazy.

How about outside Trek… Have you seen The Orville? At least the first season is more laugh than serious. Also Firefly.

Well this was a 150 € phone when new so that’s a pretty different category than what you’re looking at. I wouldn’t be surprised if 32b was still a thing in the cheap Chinese phones.

If I ever get a chance to replace it, it will be extremely tough because it has a bunch of things which are indispensable for me that newer models simply don’t have.

Not for a while, I have an oldish Motorola with Android 9, probably one of the last phones with 32b OS

(Don’t anyone dare tell me to “upgrade”)

Okay

I only use Bromite at this point for some streaming stuff which don’t work so well on FF based browsers, and Mulch always pauses playback when minimised… Bloody annoying. I didn’t want to use Brave, but I guess I might have to try it.