• aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    That’s not what a monopoly is.

    Epic had all the money in the world and tons of time (and users) to create a viable alternative. They didn’t fail because valve squeezed them out, they failed because they refuse to improve their product. In fact, it could be said that Epic wanted to become the monopoly themselves. If they spent half as much effort on their product as they do on lawsuits and exclusivity deals, they would have been a viable competitor. But they didn’t. At the end of the day, it sucks to use. Steam does not.

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      3 months ago

      EGS is perfectly usable and in my opinion is better than Steam in some aspects (way less bloat, open the app and your games are right there to launch even if you’re on the storefront), your saying they refuse to improve their product just shows you’re not using it because it’s way better than it was on release.

      And yes, Valve has a monopoly, they control enough of the market that it goes where they decide it’s going and they’re the default solution people turn to when they need the services they offer, they’re also working on increasing their reach with streaming on the platform, forums, reviews and so on. If all you need is found on a single platform and it’s the platform that a vast majority is using then what do we call that? That’s right, a monopoly.

      Want a similar example? Microsoft is considered to be in a monopolistic position with Windows, yet they have competitors, same with Office, same with Explorer back in the day. Google is a monopoly even though competitors exist.

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        3 months ago

        Fun fact: You can change which page your Steam client opens up to by default. I haven’t seen the store unless I wanted to in years.

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        3 months ago

        Opinions aside, that’s still not the legal definition of a monopoly.

        Monopoly: Exclusive control by one group of the means of producing or selling a commodity or service.

        Valve does not have exclusive control of the PC gaming market. The EGS funded lawsuit even says that in the docket. They are only suing on the grounds of the keys issue. I don’t disagree with you that when Newell leaves, things COULD change, but you can’t base the present on the possible future. At this time, steam is on “top” because the vast majority of users have voted with their wallet and time. Not because they are engaged in sweeping anti-competitive backdoor dealings. You know, like EGS does.

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          3 months ago

          Well then, by your definition Microsoft never had a monopoly and Google isn’t one either.

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            3 months ago

            Did you read the articles? The judge acknowledged that Google is widely recognized as the best general purpose search engine but that part of why they are used so often is because of Google paying people to make Google the default search option which many people never change.

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              3 months ago

              Doesn’t matter, there’s alternatives therefore it’s not a monopoly, that’s was the point I was replying to. I’m not the one making the rules or definitions!