I am an Indian and I have noticed that Indians are way too proud of their country for some reason and at the same time lack any civic sense towards it, they are extremely loud and extremely proud. We feel like the world revolves around India and our culture is superior to that of others. Also, a considerable chunk of the population has been sold the “India is a world-leader” myth and they think India is somehow leading the world in innovation, science and technology, human development etc.,

Now, I know for a fact that this is not true, when I try to gauge the perception of Indians abroad on Twitter, I get pretty negative results, but Twitter has nothing good to say about any group of people, so… I kinda wanted to know what you people though of India, don’t base it upon the etnic Indians who might be your friends and are decent people, but base it upon the news you read, the stories you hear from those Indians, etc.

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    Wouldn’t consider it a world leader, to me it often seems more like they refuse to take a clear stance in world affairs, so they can continue positive relations with authoritarian countries like Russia

    We are not interested in tying ourselves to backstabbing nations like USA or former coloniser UK. In the 1970s, these two countries sent nuclear submarines to nuke India. We were saved by Russia’s intel. Mother Russia is great. USA also has funded Pakistan for decades, that has housed terrorists that have attacked us on various occasions and killed far more citizens than that insignificant 9/11 thing.

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      Well, it’s not like you’re willing to cut ties with the West and align yourself with Russia either. Instead you’re trying to thread the middle ground by keeping your head down and keeping up trade with both. You’re not taking a stance, which is exactly why you’re not a political world leader.

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        Too bad diplomacy is pinching your little butt so hard. Here is something that will trigger you. I may be wrong though, you probably already support this.

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          It’s pretty telling that you think these pictures would be triggering to me. I’m not a nationalist, I have no problem saying that the nazi regime was horrifying. I have no issue saying that the current government unconditionally supporting Israel is a bad thing either. I’d never pretend the place I live in is the best place ever, or morally superior. Can you do the same?

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            And what place do I live in?

            Anything goes with people that hate Russia. I am okay with believing they can believe in anything horrifying.

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        This thread was also not the place to spread anti-communist propaganda about Russia. But you did not object to that, right? Also why are you afraid about people knowing USA and UK sent nukes for us in 1970s?

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          anti-communist propaganda about Russia

          Anti-Communist? Russia has been a capitalist country since 1989, they’re not even claiming to be communist.

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            Russia has been a capitalist country since 1989

            Damn I did not know the Communist Party of Russia, elected to govern, is capitalist. Next you will tell me western countries claim to be “civilised” and “democratic”, which I can also say is false.

            You were just trying to spread propaganda rhetoric.

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              The communist party of Russia is a minority party in opposition, it’s not governing at all. That’s United Russia, which holds over 70% of the seats of parliament. United Russia is not communist. You’re very confidently incorrect here.

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                  That makes both of us wrong then.

                  How?

                  Because you have an agenda.

                  While you’re clearly a very neutral, balanced person, going through a thread on India insulting people and posting images of nazi Germany.

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                    Yes, Germany is still a fascist state, considering their beloved support for Israel, and regular capturing of neonazis in society.

                    Your original word used to refer to Russia was “authoritarian”, which is anti-communist rhetoric. Russia is geopolitically communist, even if its economy is not. And every single government in the world is authoritarian. All this means that you wanted to be vitriolic against Russia, and that you are a vile, poisonous westerner.

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              United Russia is the ruling party since the fall of USSR and is absolutely conservative by any definition of the term. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation, their main political opponent, that is indeed communist, hasn’t been elected, ever.

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      We were saved by Russia’s intel.

      No, you were saved by a Soviet intervention, led at that time by a Ukrainian man, by ships mostly made by Ukrainians.

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        It was Russia, not Ukraine. You may proceed to cry. And it was Russian intel.

        Did I forget to tell you that you may proceed to cry?

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          In 1971? I’m pretty sure it was the Soviet Union buddy, and Leonid Brezhnev was from Kamianske, Ukraine. As was a majority of Soviet cold war equipment.

          I know that doesn’t fit your political preferences and deep seated need to excuse genocide, but facts don’t care about your feelings.

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            I know that doesn’t fit your political preferences and deep seated need to excuse genocide

            You are projecting your feelings so Indians start infighting with Russia, so that western NATO regime benefits. It is divide and conquer strategy, and we are quite alert about it, having gone through 200 years of it. You are the people comfortable about genocide of Russians and Ukrainians so you could continue to live a more lavish lifestyle in West.

            People like you are the most emotional, living in delusion about being logical.

            India and China have similar stances on matters, as does Russia, to the point India and China are the only countries in the world to sign a pact of not using nukes first. Why do western nations never sign that pact? 1945 Japan vibes?

            Brezhnev was a leader in Russia, not Ukraine. His place of birth does not matter. How manipulative do you have to be to claim Soviet Union and Russia (core of USSR) are not the same, and to delude me with technical nonsense?

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              You are the people comfortable about genocide of Russians and Ukrainians so you could continue to live a more lavish lifestyle in West.

              I am very much not comfortable with the fact that Russia is mass deporting Ukrainians and taking their children.

              India and China have similar stances on matters, as does Russia, to the point India and China are the only countries in the world to sign a pact of not using nukes first. Why do western nations never sign that pact? 1945 Japan vibes?

              Not only has Russia not signed it, Russia is actively using chemical weapons right now, despite numerous treaties about it.

              Russia also signed a treaty to leave Ukraine alone if it gave up it’s nuclear weapons, and look how they are respecting it.

              Brezhnev was a leader in Russia, not Ukraine. His place of birth does not matter.

              Oh boy. You really really need a course in history if you think all the parts were treated the same. It mattered a LOT.

              How manipulative do you have to be to claim Soviet Union and Russia (core of USSR) are not the same,

              Despite Russia’s best efforts, and post cold-war propaganda, they really aren’t. I think the continued fall from Soviet superpower into Russianpetro-olicharchy should be a big hint.

              But, as with most people like you, it’s protection all the way down

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                Russia is mass deporting Ukrainians and taking their children.

                Manufactured consent to force kids to die for USA Zelensky Ukraine. Biden has already said it will go down to the last Ukrainian. I am sure you are comfortable with them dying for Zionism/Nazism cause.

                Not only has Russia not signed it, Russia is actively [using chemical weapons]

                NATO has said for decades to balkanise and destroy Russia, which is why Russia cannot become such a peaceful nation. Victoria Nuland also told us USA had biolabs on Ukraine border shared with Russia for future biochemical genocide purposes, which Russia swiftly seized. Zelensky even asked for WW3, so he would have used that option if available.

                Brezhnev was a leader in Russia, not Ukraine. His place of birth does not matter.

                Oh boy. You really really need a course in history if you think all the parts were treated the same. It mattered a LOT.

                Again projection of your own insecurities.

                Despite Russia’s best efforts, and post cold-war propaganda

                I did not know Russia owned 90% of global media. I was probably wrong thinking CIA, Murdoch, Bilderberg and CFR control 90% of world’s news media that spits venom at Russia/China/North Korea/Iran and other countries everyday for the past century. Thanks for telling me! Please share more beliefs of yours so I can know what all you people think of non-western countries.