That’s very interesting. I’ve never heard about that. I’ll take a dig sometime soon. An example of dogma changing to suit practical needs. Would be good to know the conditions that are necessary for that to happen.

… they become like angels.

In the sense that they no longer have sexual or romantic urges, would be my reading of that passage. Angels have no belly buttons!

hell, which is supposedly just lonely infinite darkness away from the presence of God

So, “days ending in a Y”

Fascinating. Classism, in heaven. Work yourself to death so that you can enjoy a better neighbourhood of heaven than your neighbour.

Minimize it all you like, but no one ever started a bloody war over “Encounter at Hotpoint”. Yes, all human culture is alike in some ways. Very clever observation. I think you will find that most of the people engaged in this discussion are not even Christian. It’s still significant and meaningful, if not to us personally, to the world we exist in.

This is one of the more interesting, informative and respectful discussions I have seen in a few days. Why shit on it. The age of edgy Internet atheism has passed. It’s okay just to BE an atheist now. No one is coming for you. You can stop fighting.

Many Christians cremate.

Imagine being sent to hell to be a database administrator. MySQL and Access, obviously

Presumably Limbo too, then

THE FACTORY MUST GROW

That humans eventually become angels.

Though, there was one human who did, in an apocryphal book. And then was elevated yet again to being a second diety; there were apparently strains of Christianity which were DUOtheistic! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch

Of course we do. That’s my point. It’s not a Reddit problem, it’s a human problem.

There is no ethical consumption.

“What, me worry?”

St Peter doesn’t judge you! He’s always depicted with a book that already contains the judgements. He has no real authority, he’s just the gatekeeper.

They are all available on every instance. It’s not different than having five communities for the same subject on Reddit. It’s worse here right now because so few communities have managed to “clear their orbit” yet, but it will get better.

But, that’s not relevant to communities. You can kill a community by technical means, but technical means cannot create one; it’s necessary but not sufficient, and not even the hard part.

Most people are still on fucking FACEBOOK. They are willing to put up with almost unlimited bullshittery for the sake of their sense of community. Building a better mousetrap won’t work, and building a vaguely equivalent mousetrap won’t even move the needle.

Lemmy is Reddit 10 years ago

I mean it’s not THAT good, but it’s sure better than Reddit today.

“Reddit is awful. How do we move that here?”

Most people don’t change unless they have to, and rarely even then. You’d have to make it so that they can’t visit Reddit anymore.

Even on reddit itself, you can’t get people to move from a sick community with hostile moderation to the preferred community. /r/Canada got taken over by /r/metacanada what feels like decades ago, and they turned it into a post modern bigoted classist hellhole, but it still ranks far above the “real” Canadian sub /r/OnGaurdForThee.

Maybe better not to compete with existing communities. Develop some anchor communities on Lemmy that are doing their own thing on topics that aren’t well served on Reddit.

There are at least three viable commercial microblogging sites right now. So you already have all these problems, without even considering the Fediverse. The Fediverse is the SOLUTION to these problems, not the cause.

Hint: https://mastodon.social/