Quick question, I’m looking to make an Mbin account and just wanted to ask if there is any lemmy.ml type of situation to be aware of.

  • Fitik@fedia.io
    18·
    9 days ago

    There’s a list on the Mbin’s website, I’m surprised it wasn’t mentioned yet

    https://joinmbin.org/servers

    I can recommend these instances:

    • fedia.io (It’s the biggest one, so it would be better to avoid for the decentralization)
    • kbin.earth
    • thebrainbit.org

    The later two are run by mbin devs so they should be pretty good

    Additionaly there’s !AskMbin@fedia.io magazine, so you can ask questions there instead.

  • Blackout@fedia.io
    12·
    9 days ago

    I’m using fedia.io and it’s very stable. Nice after the instability of kbin.social and kbin.run. although I could be bad luck and causing the devs to run.

    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      8 days ago

      I disagree. Mbin is so small at this point that going to fedia.io isn’t even an issue.

      As users pour in, over the millions, then they’ll spread out. But for now, it’s kind of like worrying that the town is getting too crowded because a 5th house was built, and the other town only has 2 houses.

          • bacon_saber@fedia.io
            1·
            7 days ago

            Seriously though, trying to understand a detail about how this all works (anyone free to answer). Does each additional user to a smaller instance indirectly help flesh out the available content on that user’s instance?

            As in, more total users -> more total community/magazine subs by those users --> more federated content becomes visible to the instance’s newest joiners after that?

            Unless I’m misunderstanding how it works. If that’s correct, then the benefit of each additional user would be most visible the fewer the instance’s current users, and then eventually level out as more users join and the most popular remote communities/magazines are subbed by local users.

            I mention this because I’ve occasionally browsed other instances during brief outages on my home instance. At those times I noticed that while the default feeds (not logged in) across instances looked mostly the same, some of the smaller ones were missing some fun/interesting magazines that the others were showing.

            P.S. I don’t think this was due to defederations but who knows.

  • Riley@lemmy.mlEnglish
    2·
    9 days ago

    What exactly happened for the name to be changed from Kbin to Mbin? I missed that plot point.

    • Chozo@fedia.io
      41·
      9 days ago

      Mbin is a fork of Kbin. A lot of users have moved from Kbin instances to Mbin, as the Kbin dev has had some personal life issues that have interfered with his ability to reliably work on the project.

    • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
      3·
      8 days ago

      Mbin is a community fork of Kbin. Even while Kbin was still a thing it was already much faster in making changes & additions than Kbin and by now Kbin & Kbin.social is basically dead.

    • poVoq@slrpnk.net
      English
      2·
      9 days ago

      Mbin is a fork that was startend to add some stuff the original Kbin dev didn’t like. These days it seems Kbin is dead though, so basically Mbin is the new Kbin.

  • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
    42·
    8 days ago

    I’m quite sensitive to Tankies and seen some other Lemmy instances that seem problematic but I have not noticed any mbin instances standing out in any way. But all mbin instances combined are just a few thousand users at best, so it might just be too few users to even make an impact if there was a specific Tankie instance.

  • Deceptichum@quokk.auEnglish
    411·
    9 days ago

    From before Kbin shut down, I was hearing a lot of talk of the Mbin devs being dickheads and spamming around the site.

    I don’t think they’re genocide denying authies like the Lemmy devs, but the mbin team isn’t great either.

    Why not look into something like PieFed?

    • BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de
      16·
      9 days ago

      I am part of the mbin team and I am really tired of hearing shittalking about us without any reason. Nobody has any reason to call us anything but passionate.

      When melroy started the fork, really weird accusations were thrown around without being based on anything…

    • jerry@fedia.io
      9·
      9 days ago

      I’ve had quite a lot of experience in interacting with the mbin team and I can definitely say they are kind and compassionate people who have a passion for this project and have shown nothing but helpfulness and grace to me and many other people.

        • nutomic@lemmy.mlEnglish
          6·
          9 days ago

          I haven’t seen that community before. Some people have way too much time on their hands to keep posting about things they dislike. But at least it proves that censorship on Lemmy is impossible, when not even us developers can do it.

        • nutomic@lemmy.mlEnglish
          35·
          9 days ago

          Big words from someone who posts anonymously, and who never contributed anything positive to the internet.

          • cacheson@piefed.social
            63·
            9 days ago

            Ah yes, I sure am making any effort whatsoever to conceal my identity? Weird dodge there, guy.

            At this point even someone as ideologically blinded as you should be able to see that the presence of you and your tankie friends is a liability to the project. Why do you think OP is looking to avoid a “lemmy.ml type of situation”?

            • nutomic@lemmy.mlEnglish
              22·
              9 days ago

              Ah yes Im a liability to Lemmy which wouldnt even exist without my work. Troll harder kiddo.

              • cacheson@piefed.social
                22·
                8 days ago

                I’m not saying that the work you’ve previously done should be undone. Ideally you would abandon your shitty politics instead of your development work, but I assume that’s out of the question.

                From the perspective of those trying to advocate for people to actually use lemmy, the instances that you run, lemmy.ml and lemmygrad, are a serious problem. Together with hexbear, they’re the “missing stairs” of the threadiverse. We’re constantly having to tell people “Yeah, it’s understandable that you don’t want to associate with tankies, but it’s really not so bad if you just block those three instances, and don’t mind that two of them are run by the lead developers of lemmy”. You walking away would be a net benefit at this point.

                • Blaze@feddit.orgEnglish
                  2·
                  8 days ago

                  You walking away would be a net benefit at this point.

                  It’s not that obvious.

                  Who would take over Lemmy development? Mbin and Piefed are getting there, but still far from catching up (Piefed has no API so no apps, Mbin only has one app)

                  Lemmy is still missing some impactful features which might really make it a 1:1 Reddit alternative

                  • multicommunities
                  • Post flairs, which could then be filtered

                  In a scenario where we are only left with Mbin and Piefed, we would probably have to wait another year to get to where we are now with Lemmy.

      • mke@programming.devEnglish
        21·
        8 days ago

        Wait, when have I ever denied any genocide?

        I’m sorry, that’s hilarious. It’s so odd, so absurd I can’t help but laugh.

        I’ve disagreements of my own, but all I want is to put them aside for a bit because this sentence deserves appreciation.

    • RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      3·
      9 days ago

      One of main reasons I want to try Mbin is having lemmy style and mastodon style content in one place and afaik piefed doesn’t offer that

      • schizo@forum.uncomfortable.businessEnglish
        16·
        9 days ago

        Counter opinion: mbin and the devs are fine.

        There’s a couple of people here who won’t stop hopping into every thread about anything to talk about the things they make/businesses they run/etc.

        Feels more like they’re just a little too enthusiastic over their shit than actual shitheads, but that’s just me.

        • abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us
          3·
          7 days ago

          Agreed. It’s quite telling that despite all the asking, no one has been yet able to pinpoint a single issue on the mbin devs.

          The most generous interpretation is that it’s just a half-remembered thing of discontent from folks who didn’t want kbin to get replaced (before it was known that kbin was dead).

      • electricprism@lemmy.mlEnglish
        11·
        9 days ago

        Yeah I would definitely skip out on Mastodon and Lemmy directly. They’re fine as a temporary visit but long term nah.