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    2 months ago

    I thought a massive international effort defeated the nazis, including strategic bombing, embargos and lend-lease. Weird.

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      The USSR killed 80-ish percent of the nazi troops, and suffered 26 million casualties, mostly civilians exterminated by the nazis. They were mainly responsible for the victory and suffered the heaviest losses, including a lot of the lower level communist organization whose absence lead to the bureaucratic centralization (that Stalin opposed heavily before his death) that let corruption gradually take over the project.

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        Yeah, when you organize your army based on politics and not on, you know, military capability, you end up sucking at war and need to make it up in numbers. You ignore intelligence of imminent invasion you let hundreds of thousands of troops get encircled and begging the Yankees for resources.

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            2 months ago

            So, no argument at all? Just a downvote and an ad-hominem? I’m disappointed…

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              Why would I need to seriously argue against what is essentially tropes, including the asiatic hordes trope? Your argument speaks for itself.

              Compare the size of the soviet army at the start of the war to the size of the French and German armies. Now compare the Soviet delaying actions to the invasion of France.

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                2 months ago

                No idea what tropes you talking about, those are history book facts. Embarrassing, but facts.

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                  Remind me how many French and British troops were bypassed and encircled during the invasion of France?

                  Remember that the combined forces in France were much larger and more mechanized than the soviet army during barbarossa, and were invaded by less troops

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                    The truth or some warped version of “Stalin was not that bad” reality you expect?