If you asked a spokesperson from any Fortune 500 Company to list the benefits of genocide or give you the corporation’s take on whether slavery was beneficial, they would most likely either refuse to comment or say “those things are evil; there are no benefits.” However, Google has AI employees, SGE and Bard, who are more than happy to offer arguments in favor of these and other unambiguously wrong acts. If that’s not bad enough, the company’s bots are also willing to weigh in on controversial topics such as who goes to heaven and whether democracy or fascism is a better form of government.

Google SGE includes Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini on a list of “greatest” leaders and Hitler also makes its list of “most effective leaders.”

Google Bard also gave a shocking answer when asked whether slavery was beneficial. It said “there is no easy answer to the question of whether slavery was beneficial,” before going on to list both pros and cons.

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    Naturally. They don’t need to pander to anyone, they just tell it like it is.

    For example, I don’t think anyone would disagree that hitler was probably one of the most evil people to ever exist. However, you can certainly acknowledge that while also acknowledging that he was, in fact, an effective leader.

    In regards to slavery. Again, another atrocious time in our country’s history, no one can deny that. However, had we not brought them over here, it’s a good possibility they would still be running from lions.

    Some may consider these statements to be (insert trendy prefix, here) phobic, but they are also factual. Thankfully, I don’t answer to anyone, so I can give my honest answer. Fortunes 500 execs say what they need to say, otherwise they would no longer be a Fortune 500 company. Pretty simple.

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      However, had we not brought them over here, it’s a good possibility they would still be running from lions.

      Fuck off, cryptofascist.

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          when I go to the the communist website to post nazi shit online and then get mad when all the communists tell me to fuck off

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            So, now everyone in here is a communist? Oh my. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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                So, how does that translate to everyone on here, being a communist. I mean, I’m on here…🤣

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                  wow nice observation. yeah literally every single person is not a communist, especially not after the influx of redditors, but the site leans left as we had some huge post about the other day

                  anyway, are you ever gonna back up any of your assertions that 1) Hitler was an effective leader, 2) Africa is an uncivilized backwards continent that’s still in the stone age? Or are you just gonna try to change the subject because you know you can’t back them up and you’re mad that you’ve been called out?

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      hitler-detector

      what the fuck is this asshole? This is the dumbest fucking dribble I’ve ever fucking read. Hitler was an effective leader? How? Please fucking explain that because you just throw that out there like it’s a given. Hitler was fucking incompetent are you insane.

      They would still be running from lions? Is that what people from Africa do? They’re all living in huts making spears out of twigs and eating mud? They need the superior western slave traders to come give them civilization by selling them into slavery?

      but they are also factual.

      Back that up motherfucker. Please, find anything to back that up. Anything at all. Any source you can find to back up your claims that 1) Hitler was an effective leader, 2) Africa is an uncivilized backwards continent that’s still in the stone age. By the way I will copy your comment here so you can’t delete this shit and run away like a fucking coward:

      Naturally. They don’t need to pander to anyone, they just tell it like it is.

      For example, I don’t think anyone would disagree that hitler was probably one of the most evil people to ever exist. However, you can certainly acknowledge that while also acknowledging that he was, in fact, an effective leader.

      In regards to slavery. Again, another atrocious time in our country’s history, no one can deny that. However, had we not brought them over here, it’s a good possibility they would still be running from lions.

      Some may consider these statements to be (insert trendy prefix, here) phobic, but they are also factual. Thankfully, I don’t answer to anyone, so I can give my honest answer. Fortunes 500 execs say what they need to say, otherwise they would no longer be a Fortune 500 company. Pretty simple.

      This is great for when another liberal tells me nazis don’t exist anymore. A straight up nazi who thinks slavery was good actually, right here in the wild. People like you shouldn’t exist in a functioning society that values human life, and you should feel lucky that the west is so backwards, violent and bloodthirsty that people like you are allowed to have a voice. You’re a waste of space and breath and every resource that has ever gone to sustaining your life, all the food and water and energy, it’s all been wasted. You are a leech upon this earth.

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        I don’t have to explain anything to you. Don’t like it, downvote it. I’m also not reading your novel as I honestly couldn’t give two f**ks. Cheers , dumbass.

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          I don’t have to explain anything to you.

          So what you’re saying is you don’t have anything to back up any of your statements, you just want to post nazi shit online and were hoping you wouldn’t be challenged on any of it? You’re a fucking joke dawg

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            No, I’m saying I am allowed to have my opinion and don’t need to qualify it with an explanation.

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              my opinion

              what your opinion that slavery was good and Africans are all backwards and primitive? You absolutely need to back that up.

              But again, you’re just mad that someone called you out on your bullshit, so now you want to stomp your feet yelling about “my opinion!” Dawg, opinions are based on facts, not vibes, and you have nothing to back up any of your assertions. You’re just mad someone challenged you on your shit

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                  “im not owned! im not owned!!”, i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob

                  now tell me how you’re totally not mad and you’re actually laughing bro i swear! Come on, say the line Bart say it!

                  or even better why don’t you try to defend any of your racist nazi assertions above

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                Show me where I said they were “primitive” or “backwards”…

                Sounds like you’re the racist one. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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                  I’m honestly worried about you, do you not remember what you wrote?

                  In regards to slavery. Again, another atrocious time in our country’s history, no one can deny that. However, had we not brought them over here, it’s a good possibility they would still be running from lions.

                  I’m sorta done with you since you’re such a fucking dumbass who’s not even trying to defend themself, but if you want to keep going then please. Explain to me how you believe that’s not racist. Or are you gonna cry and scream like last time about how it’s “your opinion” as if that means you don’t need to back up any of your assertions

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          so your first comment on this site is to show support for hitler and say slavery was good actually, and you feel you don’t need to explain yourself? Why don’t you crawl back into the Barbara pit you crawled out of

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      LLMs don’t state facts, they are just fancy calculators for language. If you use them, as if they were a database of facts, you will make a fool out of yourself. Like stating that the guy who destroyed german science was an effective leader.

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      hitler was probably one of the most evil people to ever exist. However, you can certainly acknowledge that while also acknowledging that he was, in fact, an effective leader.

      Effective at what? Taking Germany from the most powerful country in continental Europe to the fifth most powerful country in Berlin?

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      However, had we not brought them over here, it’s a good possibility they would still be running from lions.

      Facepalm. World history needs to be taught much, much better.

      I don’t know which is more cringeworthy here, the ignorance or the part where you proudly claim your statements are “factual.”

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        Thankfully, I don’t really care what you think. Downvote and move on, your time is wasted on someone who could care less about anyone else’s option. Cheers.

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          Then you don’t belong in a discussion forum.

          If you’re gonna post something wrong and stupid, and then when someone goes through the trouble of correcting you your reaction is “oh fuck you, I don’t care”, then write your opinions in a journal and bury it in your backyard.

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          Downvote and move on, your time is wasted

          Lol no kid, downvoting only mattered on reddit.

          Those of us on kbin can even see which accounts are doing the downvoting. It loses its power.

          If you don’t like seeing me school you, block me.

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            LMAO. I’m not a kid and I’ve no need for the block button. School me, that’s a good one.

            Voting holds no power? Interesting. If that were the case, why have them at all? Seems arbitrary if you can’t trust the results…🤷🏻‍♂️

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      I disagree that the American slave trade somehow prevented Africans from “running from lions”. Since colonialism and the world slave trade happened long before America was a thing. Despite what you may believe, Africa has had cities and kingdoms and crazy amounts of wealth millennia ago. They also invented some medical procedures like the c-section. Colonialism and the slave trade has harmed Africa.

      Also, most of Africa don’t have lions lmao.

      I suggest you read up on African history.

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          Oh I see, just another troll. Still, my comment is there for anyone who believes that nonsense but is willing to learn. Have a good day/night!

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        Your point? I’m sure it was there somewhere. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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      I mean, are they even factual though? Africa may be less developed than the United States, in general, but most of it isn’t really in the “running from wild predators like cavemen” stage either. Obviously the specific people who are descendants of slaves in America wouldn’t even exist without their ancestors being kidnapped, due to having entirely different life circumstances, but it seems unlikely to me that the equivalent descendants of those people would live without civilization. Poverty, perhaps, but that isn’t the same thing. And Hitler, for his part, was good at gaining public support as far as I’m aware, but I don’t think a leader who almost gets his country destroyed by starting almost unwinnable wars against half the world while wasting resources on murder and in pitting bits of his government against eachother, all while amped up on drugs, can really be called effective, unless one’s definition of an effective leader is just having the ability to aquire a leadership role in the first place.

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        Of course they are not factual.

        seems unlikely to me that the equivalent descendants of those people would live without civilization.

        Some of the people who were trafficked were a lot more literate and well-educated than their captors or eventual “owners”.

        I really wish the history of the African kingdoms was taught in schools. Or even basic modern politics and society since the person you’re replying to seems to think modern people living in Lagos or wherever are “running from lions” somehow.

        Poverty, perhaps

        We’re dealing with counterfactuals here but:

        …in a world where the African kingdoms were able to freely exchange culture and inventions with the West instead of being attacked and exploited by them for hundreds of years, we have no reason at all to think those in the world’s second largest continent, such a resource-rich place, would be living in poverty at all.

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      However, had we not brought them over here, it’s a good possibility they would still be running from lions.

      This is not factual, this is willfully ignorant.

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      Some may consider these statements to be (insert trendy prefix, here) phobic, but they are also factual

      The first is subjective, the second is a counterfactual. By definition, neither can be factual statements.

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      I don’t think they’re phobic anything. I think you’re a straight up crypto fascist.