A little admiration of how easy UI customization is on Firefox, and how shitty Chromium looks.

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    8 months ago

    Mullvad Browser is another good option that is privacy focused. FF based.

    Use a few to isolate different activities.

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      8 months ago

      No.

      Mullvad Browser is torbrowser without tor. Its basically the same as Librewolf, afaik Librewolf uses arkenfox user.js which is based on torbrowser.

      But the Torbrowser has a “disk avoidance” principle, which means they always use “private browsing” mode as that never saves data on your hard drive.

      This means it always deletes everything, session, cookies, tabs, searches, …

      MullvadBrowser is not more private than Librewolf and ALSO has these things making it basically unusable for daily usage.

      This may lead to people using it “for the private stuff” and a shitty browser for the rest. Which makes no sense, as Librewolf is the same.

      And also, private browsing doesnt allow containers, meaning “multi account containers” and “temporary container” are nonfunctional. You dont need to run multiple damn browser sessions, just use containers.

      And dont use Mullvad Browser its BS.

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        8 months ago

        Different people have different use cases. I am not sure what point you are making beyond that it does not fit your set up.

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          What I wrote?

          • no container support
          • no stored session = not a browser normal people will switch to
          • not more hardened or privacy optimized than librewolf
          • no profile support too I guess, because private browsing.

          But sorry your statement is correct, it is a privacy focused version of Firefox.

          But not sure what the “use more to separate activities” means, I try to do that with containers and mail aliases and its already complicated. Running and updating 2 browser engines will not help here.

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            8 months ago

            Such as using socials on 1, banking on another.

            Also, a browser for your searches. I guess containers could do that but my understanding you still can get finger printed easily plus I could not get to use them consistently. Having different browsers made it easier, at least for me.

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              8 months ago

              Containers are persistent and you can also use 2 profiles of the same browser and add a desktop entry to launch them separately.

              Using separate browsers really is no good practice.

              Fingerprintability may be already given by your IP.

              Also the fingerprint defender addons help with randomizing some identifiers and fool naive scripts

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                8 months ago

                Good VPN for IP issue.

                “Using separate browsers really is no good practice.” can someone provide some support for this?

                Mullvad Browser lets you reset the finger print with a click of button.

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                  8 months ago

                  No that clears browser data, the fingerprint is very complex. If you mean cookies, Librewolf and Firefox can delete all but you can add exceptions where you want to stay logged in. Very handy, also not there in private browsing.

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                    For me its way easier to use a different browser for each use case. Librewolf for something, Mullvad for something else, also Brave, also Vivaldi. 4 different browsers are making my life seriously easy. Why would I stick to 1 browser with many profiles? If something breaks in that one browser (which happens quite often) all I have to do is fire up a different one and try again. Different people different use cases, different streamlines.

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        Tor Browser is based on Firefox-ESR, while Librewolf is based on Firefox-Release. Because of this, they do not have identical features and preferences. Tor Browser and Mullvad Browser are designed for stability and minimal customization for the purpose of blending in with other users. Librewolf is designed to receive new features, better privacy defaults than standard Firefox, and allow users to more easily configure preferences. All of these browsers are valid options for privacy-minded people, depending on personal preferences, including separating activities/identities between different browsers. Container tabs are certainly good for privacy, and hopefully the feature can one day be used in private browsing mode.

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          8 months ago

          Good points. I guess Librewolf will be a little more unique. ESR is a secure base, just pretty outdated soon.

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          All of these browsers are valid options for privacy-minded people

          However they are bad options for those looking to switch from chrome. Even to myself it was very annoying that it always deletes everything, to someone who “already makes life hard on the web” for itself as some like to note in real life.
          Mullbad Browser is fine for systems like Tails (not sure if they have it) and maybe for environments like libraries and such public places, where everything is our should be volatile anyway.

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            8 months ago

            Well yeah, people still using Chrome probably need to take baby-steps to reclaim little bits of privacy for themselves. For those users, switching to Firefox is probably the best option. But technically, Mullvad Browser and Tor Browser can both be configured to disable private browsing mode and be non-volatile. It’s just that normal users are unlikely to know that or to know how to do it.