When I was on Reddit I felt like my opinion didn’t matter. But here it just feels more open and free.
Every comment I would make on Reddit seemed to get challenged by someone looking to start a long-winded argument as they were, in fact, the main character of the universe.
I like it here because so far, people are nice. It’s like the first day of high school and everyone just wants to be friends and meet people.
No karma competition here. It has a bigger effect on behaviour than you’d think.
It’s like a little trophy or a symbol of validity to some people. You’d see big edits addressing downvoted as if people got personally hit in the head with them.
I don’t blame people though because viscerally, these things are little tokens of “approval” by others at large.
Reddit gamified participation, and the result was an addiction to trying to say things that people would click the updoot for. Here, the comment / post score is used purely to determine the relevance and value of the individual comments and posts. I think the result is clear: people feel less compelled to post the meme, the shitpost, the expected something and are more likely to express a thought they have, or think is valuable to the conversation.
The result is less stuff, but the stuff is more nuanced, interesting, and engaging (even if the engagement metrics are lower). It’s also a less stressful environment to interact with, and is just kinda all around better since no one is trying to profit
Votes have a bandwagon effect, both up and down votes. Sometimes it just felt like arguing with an army of mute downvoting zombies; no reply, just downvotes. I completely understand some communities on Lemmy disabling downvotes, even if that means there is no mora a “controversial” vote.
My only fear is that as Lemmy gets bigger, the same botting, brigading and mindless bandwagoning, will also come here.
I feel like your characterization of Reddit users as long-winded and contrarian is inaccurate and frankly offensive. Let me write you several paragraphs about why you’re wrong, sprinkled with thinly veiled personal insults and outright harsh commentary about you as a person.
Sorry, just trying to make it feel like our old home :)
Lmao this was good. You forgot to comb through my post history to see if you can make your comment even more hard-hitting by referencing a personal problem I have that was highlighted in a post or comment from 6 months ago 🤪
You had me in the first half sentence.
I completely agree with you. Now defend your point, which I’ve definitely attacked by replying. 🤺
As the antagonist of this thread, I would have to disagree with this statement. I was, initially, very dismayed to see that no one had taken issue with this comment. Alas, here I am, to set things right. Being that most online communities seem to revolve around my person, I thought that I’d share these thoughts that so many of you had been patiently awaiting.
No but fr, huge fan of these communities. The voices that search out an argument don’t seem to gain quite as much traction on fedi (yet, at least). Probably due to them having a larger overall audience on reddit to feel validated by. Hopefully it stays that way!
I like I can say the words Tiannamen and Square and not feel like bots are out to get me 🙂
The misinfo on Reddit is wild. Just shows people don’t understand federation and how the views of one instances’ moderators doesn’t impact what people can say or do on other instances.
That literally couldn’t be further from the truth /s
I like you!
Yay!
And I like you too.
I‘m way more active here. I want that place to survive and become the new home for former redditors.
Same here, forced me out of my lurker shell. 😅
Deleted My reddit account , tried all of the fediverse before but always went back to propriety for same reason as anyone else. Everyone is there. With the Reddit exodus I feel this will get the push it needs
Yes. It’s far less hostile here and I don’t fear getting downvoted to hell for asking a question.
Excellent point and I totally agree.
Or, to translate your comment to Redditese: “This.” ;)
Mostly lurked on Reddit, trying to comment here and there on lemmy.
I’m more active here. You can actually post comments without idiots being toxic about it for no reason. You can actually make posts without them getting removed for no reason. It’s great.
When I joined Lemmy I decided I wanted to engange with the community here on Lemmy, since I on Reddit I just lurked, so I’m much more active here.
It feels like you can join in later. There are not thousands of replies in the first few hours. So commenting or participating was a waste of time before in many bigger subs. Noone would ever see your answer anyway or interact with you, so there was really no point.
Here it feels like you are actually participating in some way. I really like it.
That’s true - Lemmy displays new comments above “top” comments, allowing them to be seen by everyone.
Yeah, the default sorting behavior contributes quite a bit.
Posting on reddit felt kinda like lurking most of the time. Here it’s indeed different, as people tend to answer questions etc. that are made in comments.
I’m not only commenting more (because I’m not afraid people will bite my head off for everything I say) I’m also reading a lot more comments in general. I think it’s for the same reason, the comment threads seem to involve actual constructive discourse. It’s funny that I read fewer posts here than I did at Reddit but I spend a lot more time per post.
Yeah, this place sort of just has a better spirit right now. I hope it’s able to hold onto this vibe as it grows.
Oh, don’t worry. There’s still plenty of people who will bite your head off or call you a “concern troll” for genuine opinions that go against the hive mind. Things are just slower.
Reddit comments just get washed away by millions of other users. Where as in this place it’s not as competitive so yea I understand what you mean.
Yeah, I think this is a big part of it. There’s no point posting something in the big Reddit subs most of the time because someone else will have already posted the same thing.
To get noticed you have to be early and/or say something witty or superficially inciteful. There’s no room for nuance.
It just becomes a competition for karma, and if you don’t play you’re screaming into the void.
I feel the lack of (public?) karma will at least help with the repost bots here. That is, if you buy the “bots needing karma to look legit” or the “needs to gather karma to post in some subs” arguments. I’ve always found those to be very weird as no sub I’ve seen needs several thousand karma to post and most bots still look like bots.
Competition for karma sounds like more of the same problem with bots: lots of low effort posts to rise those numbers
Yeah, that will probably help. But I also feel like it just trying to get upvotes makes people compete to post popular but not necessarily good quality stuff. Getting a highly upvoted post is a big dopamine hit in itself.
Upvotes are not so important here, part due to no karma, but partly just because it’s quieter. Hopefully, if activity does pick up, the federated nature of Lemmy means some of that can be avoided. If you’re interested in a topic, you can choose between a very popular community on one instance, or a quieter but more thoughtful community on another instance.
I posted a showerthought mostly to try how posting works. It seemed to be at the top of… is there a /r/all equivalent here?
Anyway, it was visible enough my sister found my account. It kinda feels like moving from a giant metropolis to a village.
I am because I feel it’s great to be a part of the growing numbers of the platform. Everything is a bit rough around the edges and it gives it a ‘far west’ feel
This instance is not big enough for the two of us.
Definitely.
For example, I’ve just written and posted a comment in this very thread. That’s more than I’d ever do in a thread like this on Reddit.
Same!
There are several of us!
DOZENS!!!
Reddit comment threads are currently just full of groupmind wankery. I like being on a platform where I don’t 100% agree with everyone and I don’t have to hold “sanctioned” opinions that are approved by a mod team of 3.
Reddit unironically gives me 1984 as it’s about to get worse from here on out.
I used to be pretty active on Reddit and I kinda became more and more “sour” and unfriendly over there, because the whole community just dragged me down for some reason.
Here, it’s like a breath of fresh air and most people are actually quite nice. Topics have finally become more interesting and there’s no such thing as an echochamber. Critical thinking seems to be possible here, as well.
So yes, I became way more active again since I’m on Lemmy. Also, I host my own instance and I put a lot of effort into it, so I want it to be in good standing with other instances. Participating in friendly conversations will help with that.
Gonna have to buck the trend and say, no.
I had good experiences on Reddit, I was active in a few different communities and had good engagement without the ‘avalanche of toxic responses’ some people here are describing.
I’m leaving Reddit due to the changes at the top, not because of problems at the grass roots.
Same here. Of course there was always the occasional troll looking for a fight, but mostly acceptable to pleasant interactions.
The grass roots are also wilted, though. All communites decline, unless painstakingly maintained. Not many want to keep doing that on a proprietary, hostile platform. So the overall degeneration is obvious.
Still trying to “find my place” here but I am enjoying the whole thing. Lots of awesome discussions popping up and great conversation here.
