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    11 months ago

    Why don’t you go create a PR instead?

    It’s amazing how you have fallen hook line and sinker into believing that the problem is difficult to solve. It’s the agenda that is the problem.

    They have people like you who will not read actual code to see that they only care about the fact that “Rust is cool programming language” and crashing code doesn’t get any priority.

    They even started a new front-end Rust application this month, because they don’t care to bother with the core of the site, PostgreSQL doing INSERT and SELECT statements to load comments.

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      It’s amazing how you have fallen hook line and sinker into believing that the problem is difficult to solve. It’s the agenda that is the problem.

      If the problem is easy to solve, then go solve it, open a PR, and come back here once you’ve done so.

      If you’re going to signal that something needs to be done, and you want people to join you in supporting that belief, then actually put something forward that people can get behind. What would me getting angry alongside you actually accomplish? If there was a PR then the community could go and say “Here is a solution, here’s why we think it’s worth merging” and a discussion could actually be had.

      Instead you’re just giving rhetoric about how they don’t want to solve this without any evidence, actually creating a PR and having it rejected would be all the anyone needs to see to support your opinion, so go do it.

      They have people like you who will not read actual code to see that they only care about the fact that “Rust is cool programming language” and crashing code doesn’t get any priority.

      I’ve have merged PR’s in the Lemmy repos. Don’t assume you know anything about me or my position, because you don’t. I don’t have any particular stance on Rust and if this is actually an issue it’s one I’d like to see resolved, so go open a PR and get the conversation started instead of whinging here.

      They even started a new front-end Rust application this month, because they don’t care to bother with the core of the site

      Are you referring to this repo that Dessalines forked and hasn’t made a single commit against? That hardly seems like they’re abandoning the current frontend and more like a dev messing around with various tech as we all do.

      PostgreSQL doing INSERT and SELECT statements to load comments.

      If you know what’s wrong, and you know how to fix it, then either put up or shut up. Go make a PR and fix the problem and show us that they rejected the PR because they’re not interested in improving performance. There’s folks like Phiresky actually making meaningful contributions to the backend to help improve Postgre performance, something both dessalines and nutomic have said they’re not well experts in. Be like Phiresky, actually put your code where your mouth is.

      Lastly, I don’t know if you were aware of this, but the Lemmy devs don’t owe you anything. Even less so if you’re not actually contributing code or money to help move this project forward.

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        If the problem is easy to solve, then go solve it, open a PR, and come back here once you’ve done so.

        Why… That isn’t going to get in installed on the servers they are running. I failed to see that this is a “Rock Star” culture, and the audience does not interpret months of Issue 2910 getting no attention as a problem. There are social forces that are non-technical, and I wildly misinterpreted the situation. You personally have really made the case to me just how wrong I am. Again, I am sorry I made such a fuss and misunderstood.

        Be like Phiresky, actually put your code where your mouth is.

        Why… That isn’t going to get in installed on the servers they are running. I know the change was not difficult for anyone to do. I failed to see that this is a “Rock Star” culture. Look at how you know them by names, and how much you respect that. I just didn’t appreciate the 4 years of style and fashion so fully.

        Lastly, I don’t know if you were aware of this, but the Lemmy devs don’t owe you anything.

        Such an interesting discussion. Do you believe Reddit owes you something? Do you believe Linux owes you something? Such a interesting topic.

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          This has nothing to do with rockstar culture and everything to do with the fact that you’re spending 10x the amount of typing complaining about an issue than it would have taken you to just go and fix it and be done with this. So either you don’t want it fixed because you prefer to complain and die on your sword, or you don’t know how to fix it.

          Either way I’m done with the conversation. If there is actually an issue I expect someone else who is actually levelheaded and reasonable will identify it and submit a PR. Because that’s how you improve open source software, not by throwing tantrums and making wild assumptions about peoples agendas. Go touch grass or something.

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            This has nothing to do with rockstar culture

            Then I’m confused, because that was my own idea.

            the fact that you’re spending 10x the amount of typing complaining about an issue

            I’m no longer complaining, you convinced me, I love them like Rock Stars now and I have formally apologized and explained how wrong I was in my thinking because of my past memories of running mission-critical PostgreSQL servers. Are we clear now? It’s all about Style and Fashion, and I got way too worked up about crashes.

            So either you don’t want it fixed because you prefer to complain and die on your sword, or you don’t know how to fix it.

            I don’t get this. Why are you making it about me? Do you think I am the one who opened GitHub issue 2910? Is that your accusation? That I created a fake account and opened issue 2910? I was not worried about me. Even in June I was not worried about me personally. I was worried about the person who opened the issue, is that understandable to you?

            I was worried about Reddit users encountering server crashes. This isn’t about one person, me. This is about thousands of people and a June 30 deadline.

            But 12 hours ago, I have turned direction. I did not realize just the kind of culture and “Rock Star” attitude that was going. I was focused on Reddit June 30, and I didn’t see that the social conventions were far more important than server crashes. It was a mistake for me to be worried so much about data and crashes when that isn’t the culture here. I am finding everything thinks it is “cool” and “fine” that it took over a month for 2910 to be resolved. I never expected that, it was me who was socially out of touch.

            I really got lost socially and regret my attitude problem. I should have learned back in March with Elon Musk running Twitter now, that the rules for social media cultures are vastly different than my measures for what would consider to be “cool” regarding a server crash issue. Not one person has said that 2910 should have been addressed within 3 or 4 days of being created. So I know now that it is me who has to change.

            If there is actually an issue I expect someone else who is actually levelheaded and reasonable will identify it and submit a PR.

            Do you think the issue isn’t fixed or something? This is a postmortem discussion. You seem confused. Or do you think some other confusion, like I’ts about me personally in Issue 2910?