• Hazdaz@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Are we going to magically assume the traffic just vanished?

    People and goods still need to be moved from one part of the city to another, as well as from other parts of the country and even internationally. Way too many of these “fuck cars” people naively think you can just wave a magic wand and make the transport of goods and people just disappear. Something would need to be done to solve that. Was an underground highway built? Alien teleportation? A fleet of magic carpets were made available that run on unicorn farts that allow people to get around?

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      11 months ago

      Eh, you don’t need a highway through the heart of the city for that.

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      11 months ago

      Something would need to be done to solve that. Was an underground highway built? Alien teleportation? A fleet of magic carpets were made available that run on unicorn farts that allow people to get around?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Train

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tram

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkability

      Are you really trying to pull a “fuck cars people are dumdums” while blatantly ignoring all the solutions they have proposed over and over again?

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      11 months ago

      A lot of cities in Europe are actively discouraging people from taking the car to get to the city center. Either by requiring a permit to enter, making it very convoluted to get to your destination by implementing one-way streets and having a few big roads made to take on traffic, outright banning older cars with bad emission, or a combination of the above.

      This is typically balanced with park & rides outside the city center, from where you can easily take public transport into the city.

      Suppliers are still allowed in and are able to do so because less cars are driving there.

      The city I live in has recently implemented such measures. Lots of people were complaining beforehand. But after a few years, there’s not less people making it inside the city, no massive congestion, better air quality,…

      Edit: not saying this is necessarily the case here. From other comments, it does seem they moved traffic underground. But my reply is still valid to your comment.

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      11 months ago

      Are we going to magically assume the traffic just vanished?

      It’s an underground highway. Out of sight, out of mind. I imagine they probably also improved the overall road design, like Seattle, Denver, and Boston have done (or are doing) with their projects to bury highways below-grade.

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        11 months ago

        Which is basically what I said at the bottom of my post. But first off tunnels don’t work everywhere, are incredibly costly, and local roads would still be needed to let buildings downtown have access.

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      11 months ago

      Or maybe the number bus and tram lines increased, and the train systems expanded. “One person, one car” is a mentality we should all be saying “fuck that” to.