With Reddit shutting down its API setting a precedent in the corporate tech world (and Reddit was a major outlier in that a ton of their users are technical minded and support third party clients, YouTube does not have that kind of userbase and will not get backlash for it), Twitter doing whatever the fuck they’re doing, and Google already hellbent on destroying ad blockers, the days of Newpipe, Invidious, and Freetube are numbered. Wouldn’t be surprised if they implement Netflix level DRM tomorrow that makes alt clients impossible. I say savour your alt clients while you can guys, you won’t be able to soon.

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    NewPipe at least already doesn’t use the API, it scrapes the website.

    … Which it just occurred to me might be one of the reasons Google is pushing that web integrity thing. Dang.

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      All the web integrity thing would do is force them to use a specific client when accessing YouTube to scrape their site.

      Putting shit out on your publicly accessible website enables all who access it to download anything you make available there.

      This is just regular cat and mouse.

      If my YouTube experience goes away, my hobbies will get some tlc. My reddit experience barely faltered with my transition to Lemmy

      We’ve been through all of this before and we’ll go through all of it again.

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        All the web integrity thing would do is force them to use a specific client when accessing YouTube to scrape their site.

        The problem is none of the attested browsers will let you to use them in this way.

        We already have DRM for video on the web. I believe it would be a similar problem to getting WideVine L1 content from e.g. Netflix in an open source app.

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          Ask me why I invested in Vimeo.

          But seriously, it will just make competitors thrive.

          I’ll pay for a nebula subscription before I sit through a single YouTube ad.

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            Yea I think, if newpipe stops, I would switch to nebula. It would even help my yt addiction and I would support my youtubers without giving a share to youtube.

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              I’ve tried nebula because a video I wanted to watched on yt was released earlier there. That was the only video on the whole platform worth watching. It’s clickbait, you pay for.

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                Practical Engineering, Real Engineering, Real Science, Joe Scott, Climate Town… Dude in that screen grab of just 15 videos I’m ready to watch about 60% of them.

                Maybe you dont have a wide range of interests?

                https://talent.nebula.tv/creators/

                So many of my current YouTube subscriptions are on that list. 12 tone? Tom Scott? Adam Neely? Mary Spender? Real life lore? Leagle Eagle? The 1 Janitor? Invisible People? neo? JJ McCullough? Tier Zoo? Up & Atom? Charles Cornell? Strange Parts? Half as interesting? Not Just Bikes? Practical Engineering? HBomber guy? Minute physics? Tantacrul? Medlife Crisis?

                Some of youtubes best creators are on nebula.

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                  Tom Scott I watch on YT, Real engeneering is pretty good too.

                  Maybe I will give it another go, and try to ignore the thumbnails… and titles… :D

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                    Check out any of those guys I mentioned if you like engineering, music nerdiness, sociology… science etc.

                    They’re all on YouTube, so worth seeing if those creators are your jam first.

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                I like the Engineering dud, but this video looks a typical. Do they also have their yt videos on the platform or just other stuff.