I’m curious about what you think on how it will affect the Linux community and distros (especially RHEL based distros like Fedora or Rocky).
More detials found here: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream?sc_cid=701f2000000tyBjAAI
Seem more accurate that their public repos will be closed, so now only centos-stream will be public. You will still have full access to source through their developer program or as a paying customer.
My immediate thoughts as a fedora user: Fedora is looked at as a bleeding edge testing distro for what eventually goes into red hat. By using fedora, I am sort of a beta tester for ibm, and am in some ways contributing to the improvement of a distribution (red hat) that goes against what I believe a Linux distribution should do. Given that, should I distro hop?
Or is my brain just trying to make me distro hop again?
Do it, you coward! Hop with me!
You could just use Fedora and not submit any bug reports as that would help them. Just quietly leech.
It’s nice if you can find something that both does what you need and agrees with your philosophy…but usually some compromise is required.
You aren’t the only one. Ive been on Fedora for a few years because I liked what Gnome was doing, I liked the updated Kernel, and I was annoyed by canonical. Now I’m not really sure where to go, as both Pop and Mint do not, in their current forms, work well with my hardware.
Not to revive any lame memes, but have a look at Arch Linux! I’ve been daily driving it for 10 years. It’s way more “updated” than fedora is.
does it have same interface? Fedoras gnome is unmatched (…to me, as far I tested around distros).
Or is there any other equivalent, similar to fedora and its gnome?
Arch doesn’t come with an interface, the idea is you build it up from the bare minimum yourself
Wouldn’t recommend if you just want a usable desktop os
As for gnome, gnome is gnome you can get it on any distro
This is a fight between IBM and Oracle. There’s been a lot of bad blood between them since Oracle did a s/Red Hat/Oracle/r for their own branded distribution.
IMO that’s the main driver behind this change: don’t feed your largest competitor free stuff and not something specific against Rocky/Alma/whoever else is using the code.
They still give all the code to their customers and as it is still GPLed code, noone can stop redistribution. So I’m wondering who will be the first RHEL customer which runs some “open mirror” of the RHEL codebase.
I wouldn’t expect it to impact Fedora, but this will probably be significant for Rocky/Alma.
RHEL hasn’t gone closed source, it still complies with the GPL. If they provide you a binary, they must and will continue to provide you with the source code. I feel like this is like when they announced Centos Stream as a “rolling distro”, their messaging is awful, and the optics are bad. I feel this is more to stick it to Oracle and unfortunately, Alma and Rocky are just getting caught in the crossfire.
I’m newish to Fedora and admit I don’t understand the whole developer/governance structure of it vs RHEL, but the news did make me wonder about continuing to use Fedora.
Reading some comments here, maybe it’s a non-issue. Guess I’ll have to dig more.
It’s a complete non-issue. Sensationalist headlines are so easy to make about this.
Anybody who has a FREE developer account can access the source code.
Thanks for more information.
Since Fedora is upstream of RHEL I’d like to think it’ll be unaffected from the move. But only time will tell
As someone who admins around 200 Rocky 8/9 and Centos 7 servers, this is a little concerning.
But I have a lot of faith in Rocky and Alma, who are reportedly working together, in coming up with a solution to ensure they continue getting security fixes and updates.
Redhat are steadily turning into every bit as anti-competitive and, well, evil, as Oracle used to be. It’s a shame as they used to do a lot for the FOSS world. Now they seem content to profit from it and give nothing back.
Now they seem content to profit from it and give nothing back.
This statement is completely false. Red Hat contributes a ton to open source, to thousands of upstream projects, probably more than any other individual company. Software from Red Hat acquisitions has been transitioned from closed to open source. New open source software is often created by Red Hat engineers. Everything Red Hat does is open source and contributed back upstream whenever possible.
To be clear, me saying this is not an endorsement of the RHEL source export changes announced yesterday. I think that sucks. But it doesn’t undo everything else Red Hat does.
The enshittification brought to you by IBM.
It seems like what I’ve read from GPLv2 and GPLv3 as well as RH’s EULAs, contrary to some people here, Red Hat technically didn’t violate the GPL, but they are already not following the spirits of GPL and free software/open source (People expect free/open source software as in they can easily find the source publicly accessible in GitHub, GitLab, CodeBerg, or whatever Git, Subversion,… repos of your company or organization). And I think they don’t believe in free marketing either, many other companies are aware that people are pirating their softwares, or compiling the software themselves (if it’s open source) and give them as if it’s from them for free; especially when you’re dominating a market segment, it can make people exposed and relying on your softwares, so that anyone will mandate to use your softwares because it’s “industry standards”.
