cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605

A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

  • Indie@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Let’s be honest here.

    How long do you think that child would last being parented by someone who wanted their child aborted so they could wear their jeans again.

    Abortions should be easily available to any and all women, in every state.

    I don’t agree with their decision making length, but if abortion wasnt such a fucking touchy subject, the woman probably would have done so as soon as she found out.

    Her body, her choice.

    Men and politics need to get the fuck out of the way.

    • Auli@lemmy.ca
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      1 year ago

      She literally had 20 weeks to do it legally with no problems.

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        1 year ago

        And she didn’t. And mostly men around america make it a massive political issue. I’m not condoning the length of time it took her to decide.

        But I’m also not conding your response saying she had x amount of time, avoiding my inquiry about the ability to not be a good parent. What’s worse? A small amount of time for a fetus, or a lifetime when the kid boils to death in the car cause mommy wanted to go shopping?

        Quit wishing misery on birthed children all in the name of a life. It doesn’t work that way.

        If it was her body her choice, and she had education about it, or possibly free access to birth control, this might not have been a story. Sadly, it seems America is walking backwards with women’s reproductive rights.

        I’m not going to get worked up about a woman aborting her fetus for whatever reason. Make all other options more attainable and then it’s a conversation to have, but not really. If I found out my wife would have a higher than average statistical chance of dying while giving birth, she could make her choice. My preference would be, let’s just try for another and hope it doesn’t put her life at more risk.

        This isn’t the case here, but how about we throw pitchforks at the penis that impregnated this young woman? It does take 2.

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          1 year ago

          Umm an abortion at 28 weeks is illegal almost everywhere in the world dude, except in extreme circumstances like safety of the mother. Many EU countries limit abortion to first 12 weeks or so.

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        1 year ago

        There are hundreds of possible reasons for why this 17 year old did not manage to go through the abortion in time. But you really really want her to be an evil murderer who did this… For what? You really think she did this because she is just an awful human being and therefore now as punishment deserves to have to go through pregnancy and childbirth?

        It is her body not yours. When you get pregnant and feel the moral obligation to go through the whole process of birthing it than you can still make this decision. But it’s not yours to make or judge about because it’s the actual already living body of another person.

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      1 year ago

      Why are we pretending like adoption does not exist? You’re skipping options here.

      Abortion being a touchy subject (agreed that it shouldn’t be) leading to her waiting longer is pure speculation.

    • Smk@lemmy.ca
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      1 year ago

      Men can have an opinion on the matter. We are talking about potential children here so if course everyone will have an opinion. Saying Men shouldn’t have an opinion on this matter only proved that you shouldn’t have an opinion.

      Having a vagina is not a prerequisite to have an opinion on abortion.

      In any case, the best argument I can think of about abortion is that the fetus seem to have a consciousness at around 24 weeks. Consciousness is what we care to protect. In my opinion, at 24 weeks, a fetus is a person worth of protection.