In Congress today, the war criminal who has starved, killed and maimed tens of thousands of Palestinians was given standing ovations and 70 applause breaks.

It wasn’t the only thing that happened. Over 100 Democrats boycotted the address and thousands protested outside. Still, I think this cartoon captures the spectacle of what happened inside the building.

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        At least white people benefit then… Who is benefiting here?

        Israeli savages, not Americans.

        Fucking disgusting

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          You’re off the mark if you think America supports Israel just because they are big fans of Israel. Israel is a tool for American Imperialism.

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            Explain to me how America benefits from supporting this genocide?

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              Israel is used as a weapons testing platform by America. We are fighting a proxy war with Iran/China/Russia without risking American lives. Our proxies in the middle east and west of Russia act as physical separation and plausible deniability for our violent acts. The reason that the genocide is tolerated is because America benefits from the fighting. The Israel conflict acts as a forever war between our constant other armed conflicts, allowing us to generate income and research technology through private industry. We invented Israel to accomplish American goals in the middle east. To invoke the moral defence is to engage in a bad faith argument. The genocide is immoral on its face, but the language of power informs American policy decisions. Even the moral arguers that are allowed into the halls of power are allowed there as part of the production. That is manufactured outrage. Manufactured inso that the power forces allow the dissent to be visualized within their body to show fake deference to the filthy truth: power beats morals in America. Imploring moral righteousness from the powerful is useless. Worse than useless, it strengthens the powerful’s play by making them appear tolerant. If you want change, violence and power are the language spoken. I do not support genocide and I do not allow my thoughts to be used as a tool of oppression by placidly stating the obvious. The correct action is action and fear of being able to do that action is the boundary of power. Imagine even saying that American cities should be bombed by their own inhabitants if the genocide doesn’t stop tomorrow. You can’t? That’s power. If you’re afraid reading this, that’s power.

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                Israel is used as a weapons testing platform by America.

                Yeah but weapons for ukraine took 6 months…

                Either way, clearly US regime has some exra love for Israel because purely economic and geopolitcal terms can’t explain away US behavior imho

                The fact that there is even an “argument” about it does indeed confirm that powerful people don’t give a fuck about being found guilty of it. I guess that’s what winning really looks like in the end.

                But let’s be real this does not benefit the US geopolitically. If US stopped supporting Israel tomorrow, nothing would really change for US.

                Israel would not survive tho…

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                  I have attached a screenshot of the middle east. Israel affords the US Access to the middle-east without needing to access the Suez channel. This is of strategic importance because the canal is tiny and our navy has to send ships through it to bomb Iran through the Persian Gulf. If the canal were to be closed, we would have to take carrier strike groups around Africa to go east and access the Gulf. This is important to projecting power into the region. If ever there were a land war, the US would need Israel to put big land stuff into play to fight China/Russia/Iran. Thank you for challenging my thinking.

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              They keep Israel as a foothold on the Middle East, which pushes US negotiations with other countries in the favor of the US.

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                Man this trope keeps getting pushed as gospel…

                Israel didn’t have to ethnically cleanse the region even if this is true though.

                This is what Israel decided to do and AIPAC was able to lobby for it successfully to maintain US support.

                There is zero benefit for US here.

                Clearly people don’t remember USS Liberty

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                  Israel didn’t have to ethnically cleanse the region even if this is true though.

                  They do, Israel is a genocidal Settler-Colonial fascist regime. They need an enemy, and they need that enemy’s land.

                  This is what Israel decided to do and AIPAC was able to lobby for it successfully to maintain US support.

                  AIPAC is part of the puzzle, but the US has a history of unconditional support for Israel regardless, because Israel protects US profits.

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    Many people had to get caught up on Israels history recently.

    Israel’s crimes backed by the west are hard to reconcile with the propaganda boomers larps

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    And most of the turds in Congress applauded this power-mad, lying sack of shit. After listening to him baselessly accuse American citizens protesting nearby of being paid by Palestine. Fuck this guy.

    People need to stop buying into the bad-faith accusations of antisemitism being thrown at anyone who disagree with anything Israel says it does. It ain’t about who’s doing it, it’s about what they’re fucking doing. Verifiably, probably, blatantly doing, I might add. There’s no valid justification for committing fucking genocide, you’re just a fucking war criminal.

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        Every one that refuses to hold any member of the Biden-Harris administration or the Democrat party accountable or even settle for making a last-second reversal of their current stance

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          I don’t know what communities you’re in with a Liberal lean that aren’t lambasting the Democrat party’s stance on Israel.

          I agree with you, anyone taking a pro Israel stance right now is pretty reprehensible. But I hope you’re not conflating “vote Democrat so we don’t get Trump” as pro Israel sentiment. Most of the people saying that, from what I’m seeing, have been pro-Palestine or are under the belief that a more authoritarian leaning party (like the one we had from 2016-2020) would result in worse conditions for the Palestinian people.

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              Continued spending, a drop of the ‘mask’ of civility. Zero calls for even the most minute investigation open endorsement of using larger munitions, detaining of Palestinian-Americans akin to the Japanese American camps, legislation/trade action against nations voicing support for Palestine to silence even MORE foreign dissent.

              If you can’t imagine how it gets worse from here, pick up a history book, because we’ve DEFINITELY gone all-in on fascism before, and I’m firm in my belief that voting in ANY way that let’s the republican party as it currently stands back into power would result in a backslide to what I’ve described above. I don’t WANT to vote Democrat, in my eyes, I HAVE to because there’s no other party that will make things better, or at least not monumentally worse, right now. Abolish the two party system, introduce rank choice voting, advocate for more humanitarian policies and parties, all for it. But I can’t do all of that this November, I can just vote Blue, Red, or a third color no one’s really seen show up on the national stage, and Blue seems to be the only color that won’t ALSO curb stomp my gay and trans and pregnant-seeking-abortion friends and neighbors.

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    I will be watching for my state senators and reps. Will not ever vote for them again if they applauded and gave standing ovations beyond a polite welcome. I encourage everyone else to do the same. This does not mean I will go maga or anything but I will leave their name blank on the ballot