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- android@lemdro.id
tl;dr: after pushing rcs so hard for years, killing hangouts well after forgetting about it, & hiding it from gmail, google now wants you to use its (and google allo’s) successor, google chat.
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google’s messaging strategy has gotten so bad that they now have to remind consumers which of the apps are made for them. i myself had no clue that the google chat app in the play store was targeted towards consumers, i just assumed that the app was google workspaces only considering they always push rcs & that the play store description doesn’t go two sentences without talking about enterprise & google workspaces.
it’s kinda wild when you consider that they had a 17 year headstart on this & still somehow lost the messaging app/site race multiple times
It’s pretty hilarious how badly they’ve fucked this up. I have no interest in Google Chat at all because it’s almost certain they’ll replace it with yet another service before I even have a chance to settle in.
I enjoyed using Hangouts. I still do. But the plethora of communication apps Google makes always give me chills that the judgement day is just round the corner. And by the time it arrives, it will just end up as another name on the list without much resort.
same, back ~2015-2018 i was hangouts’ biggest fan. now i avoid most google platforms in general aside from gmail, android & youtube. i can’t trust anything else to stay around anymore, & even when they do keep an app alive they end up just endlessly shuffling them around like this for no reason
Using Google apps used to be a smooth and seamless experience but it’s become a slog. The best you can hope for is that they’ll just stop supporting whatever service you like and just let it rot without updates for years while you are allowed to keep using it. Otherwise they’ll just force you to migrate around constantly while merging or fragmenting the experience until the former happens anyway.
It’s exhausting and it’s utterly destroyed my desire to check out anything new in their ecosystem.
I feel the same way used to love hangouts, tried allo. But at this point I don’t even use rcs because although it’s “open” no third party developers can make apps for it. Using matrix with bridges via beeper is how I integrate all my chats now and makes life way easier
How long until they close down the Google Chat app and move to something else that is barely different?
This is Google’s biggest problem, I think. They’re so flaky on their products and services, I find myself not wanting to bother trying things out in case they don’t become popular enough for Google to maintain. I saw a lot of the same remarks about Stadia, and though I seem to remember Google assuring Stadia was playing the long game, well, we see how that played out.
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Seriously. I’m quite a Google maximalist (yea, I know, spare me) and a
young-ishnot-that-old IT nerd. But even I have lost track of which chat app is currently the supported one / the successor of all the dead ones, and how to get is / use it (well, particularly on the web). If I’m confused, I can’t imagine how it is for the average internet user or old people.deleted by creator
Zuckerberg can be an moron from a privacy perspective, but he sure does seem to respect stability.
Killing hangouts just made me use other platforms and throw Google in the bin.
When they keep killing stuff I use, I get burnt.
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Me, an Inbox by Gmail fan: first time?
I used GTalk with the family.
Then you killed it.
(GTalk not the family)
Please use Signal. It is a great alternative!
Surprisingly it’s been really easy to get people on signal, haven’t had to really try convincing people at all just explain what it is and they get it
still can’t get my friends and family on it, have to use messenger which is quite the pain lol
Let’s all be grateful that Google handled GChat and its successors so incompetently. There was a window of time in which the world might have gotten hooked into using Google for instant messaging, which would have been a privacy disaster. Lucky, they fucked it up.
Matrix
Huh? They confused 1st of July with 1st of April?
Another chat app???
They don’t get tired announcing and killing all of those chat apps???
Who’s going to bother inviting friends to chat in a platform that will be killed in one year max???
…nope, can’t use it to chat with my friends and family, we all gave up on Teh Goog and I worked there for over a decade! 😆
(also, by the time you see this, they may have renamed it or introduced a competing messaging app. or both.)
And the new one they introduced will have fewer features than the old one with no plans to get it to feature parity.
My D&D group uses it for planning. It’s basically the only context where I use it. It’s suitable to the task, but doesn’t really have any distinguishing features.
No thanks goolag
The article says
Just to recap: Google Talk (gchat) > Google Hangouts > Hangouts Chat > Google Chat
but of course that’s only part of the story. Here’s a longer recap from 2021.
“We promise we wont kill this one!”
Why is it written with collectivist speak? "…reminds us…? Who is the “us”? The collectivist phrasing is disturbing as opposed to using objective terms.
It’s impossible to keep up with Google’s various services. Unless it’s Gmail or Photos, it’ll probably get killed within a year.
Photos already took place of another application killed by Google. It can be killed again.
