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Hello everybody,
Alex from Immich here. What a controversy that we caused with the choice of wording, right? My personal apology to you all.
On behalf of the team, we would like everyone to know that we hear your concerns and we appreciate the love and care that you all have expressed for the project. At the end of the day, what we want most is to make sure you are all happy using the app.
With that said, we are working on a change to the word license: we will not call it licensed or unlicensed anymore. What will it be called?
We are still thinking of different options to make the wording less confusing. The new wording will hopefully showcase our intentions properly going forward.
We’re also working on updating the FAQ with more information to clarify those intentions. We just want to provide good software that people will want to pay for whilst not limiting your usage in any way if you can’t.
So expect these changes over the next week. We’re pushing this out now to let you know our appreciation for the feedback you’ve given us.
The amount of purchases in the first 24 hours has been overwhelming. Thanks everyone for the great support!
Have a great weekend!
Immich team.
I think they should consider the word “wages” instead.
Let’s be honest, this is compensation for skilled labour.
I consider open source software to be community owned/maintained so I never liked the idea of selling the software. It makes much more sense to my eyes to sell services surrounding the software be it support, customizations, or even hosted services.
I can’t really get over selling a “license” for a software that is expected to still be maintained by unpaid contributors. Especially under an AGPL license where any licensing changes has to be approved by every contributors.
Yeah this getting into a fake toss shit . All starts with FUTO crap and some previous shady movements they did . This will die eventually
How is it “fake Foss” when you can just download and run the code without paywalled features and not spending anything.
I could understand the argument if Immich relicensed to the FUTO Temporary License, which technically isn’t open source, but since immich is still AGPL this makes absolutely no sense
I would need the iOS app to properly back up photos before I paid for it lol.
I don’t think you pay for the iOS app, only the server portion can be licensed AFAIK
You’re correct but what I mean is I’m not paying for it until it’s a stable product with a complete basic feature set. As in, I need the back up software to back up reliably, it doesn’t have to be totally complete.
Yeah it logs my dad (who has an iphone) out sometimes
I’m not sure what the right model is to get money flowing in. It seems like they took the easy route. 100 dollars for a server licence is not really that small amount considering that most server users are families? I would have preferred massive fund raising campaigns … I’m a bit lazy and need lots of nagging to get my credit card out … But its right these guys get some income for their work. As long as code remains AGPL … I bet soon there will be a fork like happened with Emby. I ended up purchasing the server licence a a few month later moved to the forked version …🙂
What happened with Emby? I’ve used their service for a long time and have been very happy with their lifetime premium.
It used to be an open source project, then at some point the developers moved it to closed source. In reaction to this, a couple of people forked the last open source version of emby and launched it as an open source project (again) named jellyfin.
It is still open source and under active development, and has a significant userbase. Especially on Lemmy I think it’s much preferred by people to emby (or at least more vocally supported).
Jellyfin is superior.
Okay… one is closed sourced and the other open. That much I know. With those points out of the way, why is jellyfish superior?
Also been happy with emby, but am also curious about jellyfin
Exactly. I moved to Jellyfin because Emby introduced the life time support thing
As soon as there’s a proper backup, better built in Google photos import (immich-go exists and is awesome) and a before way to clean up the orphaned files I’ll gladly drop 100 bucks on this.
My wife and i have been using it for a year. I already had all my docker volumes set external (was always confused at that initial choice) and I’ve not had one real breaking change. Got logged out a lot after some patches but it’s been brilliant software so far. App is a little wonky and could def use some polish but overall well worth the cost for me. Same with my Plex pass although i wouldn’t buy one nowadays because i think it’s a but much for something that’s not in anyway a “private” service unless you kind of jail it and only play locally.
Remember when sco used suse’s “seat license” wording and was totally hated - like “pitch forks and torches” hated - for it?
I’m only glad you weren’t suing someone for massive contract breach, for a value so large that a million dollar smear campaign was a drop in the bucket.
Sorry you ran into a mix-up like this.
What is the context of this? License vs unlicensed? What’s going on?
https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/11186
Tldr is that theyre going for a winrar model where you have an infinite free trial, but the app is technically paid
Except it doesn’t annoy you with popups trying to get you to buy Immich every time you open the app
Exactly
Does not really matter what wording they will put in. It is clear that project will go to pay or get nothing way. So just start working on decommissioning it. Free software really need better ways to pay developers, that will allow to avoid crap like that.
Better but not best as they could just ask for funding and do a biyearly funding campaign
Except this makes them a LOT more money than what you’re suggesting, and also theyre trying to normalise the winrar model in oss
I’m talking about optional donations via something like Librepay. For instance, Thunderbird prompts you to donate on first launch. The raised about a million dollars doing that. It was non invasive and easily dismissible
They stopped accepting donations, like 2 months ago, but they accepted donations before, you know how much money they made off donations? Less than they made off the liscence in the first day it was released
That may be true but the license thing was dishonest because no one was really unlicensed in any way. That is like saying I could rake in a lot more money committing fraud than conducting legitimate business.
Foss and community driven is just that, not money making . This is not foss anymore
I mean this comment well. You seem to be clueless about the problems open source projects are facing. Free work and hopefully the maintainer doesn’t burn out before he can hand the torch to another person.
