The Quiet Death of Ello's Big Dreams - Waxy.org
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Ello launched in 2014 with big dreams, but the artsy social network suddenly shut down last year, deleting nine years of posts without warning. What happened?
  • perishthethought@lemm.eeEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Wowww, super important story for all lemmy users to read and learn from. I believe the fediverse is the solution to Ello’s self-inflicted problems.

    Go support your local instance. Let’s see if we can keep this going, as a non-VC funded community this time.

    • The Baldness@beehaw.org
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      10 months ago

      And yet the fediverse has the opposite problem. You can never trust that something you deleted has actually been deleted on other servers.

      • survivalmachine@beehaw.org
        4·
        10 months ago

        There is no solution for that beyond properly setting user expectations. Users may want to understand that anything published on the internet should be assumed to be a permanent record. Anybody that can access a post on any website has the ability to copy and re-post it on another website such as an internet archive.

  • Retronautickz@beehaw.org
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    10 months ago

    I think part of the issue with Ello was that they sell themselves as non-corporative social media while maintaining two of the most important characteristics of corporative social media:

    • Centralisation and lack of federation
    • Being closed-source

    The story would have gone completely different if they

    • Had made it open-source allowing users to contribute to the project, both as devs and through donations.

    • Added decentralisation and federation, allowing others to make their own Ello servers. This could have taken a lot of weight (financial and otherwise) from the developers/founders. Users cost money. Dividing the user base within different servers, pay by and moderated by different people means dividing the costs.

  • heluecht@pirati.ca
    1·
    10 months ago

    @alyaza I have to think of Bluesky, which is also a PBLLC and they took external money. We will see how this will develop.